One thing I don't get with "But the room doesn't exist, so they should have known!" is how much it's assuming people think the hosts are competent (or perfect, everyone makes mistakes).
If I see what looks like an interesting panel in a room I can't find a name for I'm going to first assume I'm reading the map wrong/have overlooked it, then I'm going to assume that someone's screwed up and either it's not on the map, or they've put down the wrong name - or not the "wrong" name, but something that's known locally/traditionally as one thing, but that's not the room on the door.
Anecdote time: Organising school events, we had to fight older teachers who wanted to put "Upstairs in the New Block" on their leaflets with the argument "Everyone knows the New Block". Except... it's not officially called NB, doesn't say that on the map, doesn't say that on the door. And it hasn't been new since the 60s. And when you're running an event for outside people... it doesn't matter what the locals call it, it matters what it says on the map and the door. So for something like a con I might assume Stagg Field was the nickname for a room, possibly based on a humorous event several years ago.
A lot of this strikes me as "Let's exclude people who don't know as much as us (like a character from an American TV show that stopped running in 1995)" type of snobbery at it finest.
(You know, I don't even know why I care about this - I'm not American, I'm not a con-goer. But possibly that's why - because even if this were in London... I get a distinct sense it's being marked as Not For People Like Me. Which is fine, except when they say it's for everyone.)
(Sasha, you know because it's in your journal but am reposting here for people who didn't see.)
It's been pointed out that actually, Stagg Field is on a map.
There's a PDF here which not very clearly shows Stagg Field marked on the bronze level between Wrigley and Soldier Field - look just above the blue line, where it says Gopher HQ in black.
So all the "Well they should have known it didn't exist because it wasn't on the map!" is now bullshit.
(I left a comment on the other post with the link - other people have already pointed it out, but so people can see for themselves.)
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If I see what looks like an interesting panel in a room I can't find a name for I'm going to first assume I'm reading the map wrong/have overlooked it, then I'm going to assume that someone's screwed up and either it's not on the map, or they've put down the wrong name - or not the "wrong" name, but something that's known locally/traditionally as one thing, but that's not the room on the door.
Anecdote time: Organising school events, we had to fight older teachers who wanted to put "Upstairs in the New Block" on their leaflets with the argument "Everyone knows the New Block". Except... it's not officially called NB, doesn't say that on the map, doesn't say that on the door. And it hasn't been new since the 60s. And when you're running an event for outside people... it doesn't matter what the locals call it, it matters what it says on the map and the door. So for something like a con I might assume Stagg Field was the nickname for a room, possibly based on a humorous event several years ago.
A lot of this strikes me as "Let's exclude people who don't know as much as us (like a character from an American TV show that stopped running in 1995)" type of snobbery at it finest.
(You know, I don't even know why I care about this - I'm not American, I'm not a con-goer. But possibly that's why - because even if this were in London... I get a distinct sense it's being marked as Not For People Like Me. Which is fine, except when they say it's for everyone.)
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It's been pointed out that actually, Stagg Field is on a map.
There's a PDF here which not very clearly shows Stagg Field marked on the bronze level between Wrigley and Soldier Field - look just above the blue line, where it says Gopher HQ in black.
So all the "Well they should have known it didn't exist because it wasn't on the map!" is now bullshit.
(I left a comment on the other post with the link - other people have already pointed it out, but so people can see for themselves.)
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