soc_puppet: Dreamsheep, its wool colored black and shot through with five diagonal colored lines (red, yellow, white, blue, and green, from left to right), the design from Dreamwidth user capri0mni's Disability Pride flag. The Dreamwidth logo is in red, yellow, white, blue, and green, echoing the stripes. (Disability Pride)
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Hello, everyone! I'm looking for some help offering feedback on a visual design.

Backstory: I was looking around the website of a convention I used to staff, and discovered that they were using a different graphic than I expected in the Accessibility Policy section of their website. Instead of the graphic I expected, they were using one based on the old, visually unsafe version of the Disability Pride flag from 2019; the one with the lightning bolts that triggered a lot of photo-sensitivity issues for people.

I reached out to the current Accessibility team as soon as I saw it to let them know about the problem, and the graphic design person got to work on a redesign right away; she just contacted me today to let me know that she's updated it.

The problem is, she wasn't interested in using the colors or design from the updated, visually safe Disability Pride flag, and I don't know enough to be able to say whether the current design is safe or not. The zigzag and black lines between colors are gone, but I don't know if that's enough. Is there anyone here who might be able to help me figure out if the new design is safe or not?

Thank you very much in advance!

Edit: The design has been confirmed visually unsafe, and I'll be looking into more alternatives I might be able to suggest for design elements. I wouldn't say no to more help, but I'm off to an excellent start. Thank you, everyone!

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Date: 2023-09-03 05:59 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's hard to say without it being shown. You said the black lines are gone but what are they replaced with? The problems with the black was that the contrast between the dark black and bright stripes of the flag.
jesse_the_k: Full explanation: <a href="https://is.gd/DPflag">is.gd/DPflag</a> (disability pride flag)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k

...with disabled people who have trigger issues re: seizures/migraine/vision.

So my response: why change something that's been extensively workshopped?

In similar situations, I've said, "Hey, would you change the font, size and color on an EXIT sign because you think it's prettier?"

Standardization is helpful, in general. It's particularly helpful for atypical bodyminds -- knowing what to look for, and where, and how high. That's why ADAAG is so specific.

The flag's creator, Ann Magill aka [personal profile] capri0mni discusses this
https://capricorn-0mnikorn.tumblr.com/search/disability%20pride%20flag

Documenting the back-and-forth, Magill posted to r/Disability on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/disability/comments/uhhdbv/the_disability_pride_flag_by_ann_magill_me_has/

Edited (another source) Date: 2023-09-03 04:26 pm (UTC)

Stabbed is the right verb

Date: 2023-09-03 10:14 pm (UTC)
jesse_the_k: Large exclamation point inside shiny red ruffled circle (big bang)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k

Don't want to make you cry, but the Reddit thread does have detailed discussions, including Pantone, RGB, and HEX values.

(I was impressed anybody remembered Pantone numbers still existed.)

sasha_feather: Old, cranky McKay from Stargate: Atlantis (Get Off My Lawn)
From: [personal profile] sasha_feather
This is very random but i found another disability flag (I don't love it),
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disability_flag

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