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Mon, Mar. 11th, 2013 09:59 pm
soc_puppet: Dreamsheep as Lumpy Space Princess from Adventure Time (Default)
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Hey folks!

You may remember my post a while back on my efforts to promote accessibility at our local anime convention, AnimeIowa. Well, we're back in convention planning mode now, and while I'm planning to repeat the stuff that worked and implement as many other things as I can possibly think of, I could use a bit of advice from people who may have a bit more experience in this area.

First of all, I'm getting sanitizer squirt bottles set up at every water station (we have what amount to water coolers set up at different spots in the main hallways; they don't always get refilled regularly, but it's way cool that we have them and aren't stuck relying on the few and far-between water fountains/bubblers). Does anyone have a working ratio for ounces/liters of sanitizer to number of attendees? We're expecting somewhere upwards of three thousand people, and I'd like to avoid running out if possible.

Next, we're one of the few conventions left that still runs a consuite. For those unfamiliar, consuites are basically a room or set of rooms hosted by the convention where attendees can go and get their snack on. Sometimes there's more "real" food - our consuite team is aiming to get as much fresh fruit and veg as they can on their budget, but that stuff tends to be expensive and goes fast - but mostly it's junk and snack-type stuff: chips, candy, that sort of thing. I've been in contact with the consuite team about what to label. I figure that eggs, dairy, peanuts, and tree nuts are the bare minimum for our expected fare, but I've also asked about getting the full ingredients lists for as many of our foodstuffs as possible (we're still working out the logistics of that). I'll also be asking the team to offer and label some gluten-free options, though I doubt we need to worry about that for much of our fare. Oh, and I'm talking to them about getting sanitation stations set up in the consuite as well. Basically, is there anything in particular I'm forgetting or overlooking for food-related concerns? And should I ask about offering alternative diet options (Vegan, possibly religious diets, though I don't think that's too much a concern for our snack food options outside of stuff with dairy and/or eggs? Please correct me if I'm wrong), and if so, what and possibly how?

I think that's it. If you're interested in a progress report on any of the other things I mentioned in my previous post but haven't addressed here, I'd be happy to share details in the comments. I'm also open to suggestions. Thanks in advance!

Edit: Thank you so much everyone for all of your input! I'll do my best to get it organized and sent off to the consuite staff ASAP. Hopefully they will implement as many as possible; we still have a good four months before the convention, which will give us some time to organize this. I'll be pulling for all of the most safe and accessible options, and passing on the more widely applicable ideas as best I can (scentless sanitizer, sign height, no PDFs/alternate options, etc).

I'm up for input and suggestions as long as y'all are willing to share them, so if you think there's something missing here or if you forgot something, or even if you just want to second someone else, please feel welcome to do so. I want our convention to be the best it can be, and if attendees aren't able to experience everything they want to or are harmed by our current practices, then we definitely don't qualify.

Thank you again, and I'll be replying to individual comments shortly.

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Date: 2013-03-12 03:07 am (UTC)
laceblade: Shadow of a demon cast on the wall looms over Secret of Kells character, as though about to swallow him up (Kells scary)
From: [personal profile] laceblade
Full ingredients = v. helpful.
I have chronic reflux/GERD, & therefore a long list of things to avoid that don't fit other "normal" restricted diets. Things to avoid include citrus/citric acid, carbonation, mint, tomatoes of any kind, lactic acid, & more. For this diet, things like citric acid can be in just about anything, so a list of ingredients = your best bet.

As for me, I typically avoid all con suites, assuming that at most I'd be able to eat popcorn or chips, if anything.

idk if this answers your questions.

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Date: 2013-03-12 03:15 am (UTC)
jenett: Big and Little Dipper constellations on a blue watercolor background (Default)
From: [personal profile] jenett
While it's more wastage in terms of packaging, getting serving-size-pre-packaged stuff (especially for stuff where people need to avoid allergens and/or want kosher) can be a huge saving grace - people can figure out for themselves if they can eat it, and you don't need to worry about, say, gluten contaminating your gluten-free snacks.

(About to help run a much smaller convention this coming weekend: we have a bunch of good varied restaurant options nearby, so we deliberately aim at snacks rather than meal-substitutes.)

Honestly, these days, I'd have labels out for *everything* - lots of people may not have allergies or hospital-level reactions, but a lot of people have either some things they don't eat, or some things they'd love help spotting faster.

Other useful stuff:
- Whatever (accurate, recent) info you can provide about good sources of vegetarian, vegan, or gluten-free sit down meals will be gratefully received. In the program book is best, but a printout or two in the con suite with info is better than not. (Or con suite, registration table, a couple of other places, etc.)

(The hotel we're using has an Indian place, a Chinese place, two places with explicit gluten free menus, and the hotel restaurant which does a lot of Kosher catering, and therefore tends not to blink too hard when you ask them for cooking details. There are many reasons we love that hotel, but the availabilty of food options even for people with diet limits is a big one.)

- Prep your con suite staff with what to *say* about it. If someone comes up and says "I'm gluten intolerant: do you have stuff I can eat?", ideally they should have a way to answer questions about cross-contamination of utensils, which stuff is sealed and packaged, what stuff they really shouldn't try. Not every con suite person needs to know all of this, but there should be someone who does and/or documentation they can check reasonably quickly.

- In terms of soda and drinks: providing stuff that doesn't rely on artificial sweeteners but is not full-sugar SODA will often go over big - flavored or plain seltzer, real juice drinks, etc. (Also a mix of stuff with and without caffeine.) Some people get migraines from artificial sweeteners, some people get gastric stuff from them, etc.

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Date: 2013-03-12 03:26 am (UTC)
j00j: rainbow over east berlin plattenbau apartments (Default)
From: [personal profile] j00j
Full ingredients are good-- people have less standard allergies as well as the expected ones, and it helps people know if hidden sources of the common allergens are present (for example, not everyone knows whey and casein are dairy ingredients, or that soy sauce usually contains wheat). Packaged stuff has the advantage of listing that, obviously.

Labeling stuff: Peanuts as well as tree nuts. Soy. Wheat.

Other sanitation/allergen issues: Have serving utensils for anything people might otherwise grab with their hands (bowls of chips, trays of cut veggies, etc). I've also seen Wiscon do single portions of stuff pre-made in bowls/cups (also works with condiments). Uses more paper, but it does prevent people from reaching into communal bowls. Serving utensils cut down on people touching the food and spreading germs, as well as reducing the chances of cross contamination with allergens (I suspect most people with serious food allergies avoid things where this seems possible, but I think it's good to try to minimize it).

Hand sanitizer outside of party rooms (if you have an area for official parties, as opposed to room parties) is also helpful-- then people can clean their hands before eating at the party, and maybe after shaking hands with a lot of people or whatever.

Note: I'm not an expert at food safety or anything, I just feed a lot of people with food allergies/intolerances on a regular basis. And my partner's a transplant patient, so his immune system is compromised, and therefore I'm a huge fan of measures that reduce the spread of con crud.

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Date: 2013-03-12 03:39 am (UTC)
krait: a sea snake (krait) swimming (Default)
From: [personal profile] krait
I'd just like to add that the idea of a "here's places around here to eat, and what it is" sort of list is awesome, even speaking strictly as a con-goer with no dietary issues. Lots of people travel to cons, and that means they may not have transport (got dropped off at con hotel from airport, or friend they're staying with is at work) to get to restaurants; others (women alone, or parents of young kids, especially) might not want to go wandering solo in an unknown place.

Places to eat can be hard to find if you don't look them up ahead of time - tucked down side streets, or behind another building, whatever - so it would be just all-around helpful to know that there are places to eat, along with which ones can meet dietary needs! (Or, alternately, that there aren't many nearby eateries, and thus one should pack water bottles/kid snacks/whatever.)

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Date: 2013-03-12 03:44 am (UTC)
sasha_feather: Retro-style poster of skier on pluto.   (Default)
From: [personal profile] sasha_feather
A poster on the wall of the Con Suite? Information on the website?

I dislike PDFs, they are the least accessible of all web documents.

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Date: 2013-03-12 03:49 am (UTC)
sasha_feather: Retro-style poster of skier on pluto.   (Default)
From: [personal profile] sasha_feather
The consuite at my local Con does food safety training for the main ConSuite volunteers.

Hand Sanitizer doesn't go bad-- it's alcohol-- so you can store it for next year. Just remember that it should be used in addition to hand washing, not to replace hand washing. With that many people attending, I'd look into buying bulk/getting a discount somewhere if possible. Maybe ask a hospital how much they go through?

Good luck!!

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Date: 2013-03-12 03:51 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: 12 Apostles rocks, text "Rock On" (12 Apostles)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
If individual packaging doesn't work out, the ingredient list printouts need to be where the food is.

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Date: 2013-03-12 04:57 am (UTC)
musyc: Animated text of extended "rock paper scissors" from Big Bang Theory (TV: Rock Paper Scissors)
From: [personal profile] musyc
Full ingredient lists would be fantastic. I'm one of those "nobody ever warns for this" allergy people - it is extremely uncommon to come across white beans (cornbread and beans!) in most con-type foods, but they make me violently ill. (I save myself by eating nothing with the word "bean" in it, unless it's green or lima XD.) A list would be so so so lovely.

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Date: 2013-03-12 05:59 am (UTC)
wintercreek: Mostly empty mug with tea bag. ([misc] comfort in the bottom of the mug)
From: [personal profile] wintercreek
These comments are fantastic, and as a food-allergic person I second all of them. What I'd add: signage. A sign outside the Consuite advising that there are peanuts, tree nuts, egg-containing, wheat/gluten-containing, and other highly allergic (specify as much as possible, of course) foods inside. For some folks all it takes is a tiny crumb of an allergen/gluten to cause an anaphylactic response or a celiac episode, and at the very least that person's whole weekend is ruined. More likely they are taking a trip to the hospital.

Relatedly, signs INSIDE the Consuite explaining what cross-contamination is and how to avoid it. It is so easy for someone without a restricted diet to absent-mindedly reuse a serving utensil, or stick a cheese-dust-y hand into a bowl, or whatever. And then your ingredient labeling is no longer effective and you're back looking at anything from sick evening to ruined weekend to hospital trip again.

Also, I don't know what your space is like, but if you can group things targeted for restricted diets - the gluten-free table, the vegan table, the raw foods/fruit and veg table - that could help reduce the risk of cross-contamination AND help your Consuite staff direct congoers with restricted diets to the relevant areas of the Consuite.

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Date: 2013-03-12 08:44 am (UTC)
ruuger: My hand with the nails painted red and black resting on the keyboard of my laptop (Default)
From: [personal profile] ruuger
Yeah, in all the cons where I've worked, there has been a complete ban on nuts/citrus fruits in all public areas due to allergy reasons, and at one con there was also a staffer named as 'The Guardian of the Knife' whose job was just to make sure there was no cross-contamination.

Thoughts

Date: 2013-03-12 08:56 am (UTC)
ysabetwordsmith: Cartoon of me in Wordsmith persona (Default)
From: [personal profile] ysabetwordsmith
Regarding food: to stretch the
budget, make simple grazing
food available all the time and
"real" food at limited meal
times. It's possible to make
quite good food in large
quantities cheaply if you know
what you're doing -- especially
meatless dishes. Beans and rice
is a good example. Chili is
excellent if you want something
with a little meat. Many types
of soup are cheap and can be
kept in a crockpot for a while.

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Date: 2013-03-12 09:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elialshadowpine
Yes, if you guys are putting out drinks that aren't pre-packaged, info on whether the drinks contain HFCS, sugar, artificial sweeteners, or are totally unsweetened is helpful. I say this as someone who gets glycemic headaches from HFCS and migraines from Splenda. Recently, it seems to be a Thing for a lot of places to make their flavored iced teas with both sugar and Splenda. Sigh.

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Date: 2013-03-12 11:45 am (UTC)
jenett: Big and Little Dipper constellations on a blue watercolor background (Default)
From: [personal profile] jenett
Please! Glad to be helpful!

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Date: 2013-03-12 11:57 am (UTC)
jesse_the_k: White woman riding black Quantum 4400 powerchair off the right edge, chased by the word "powertool" (JK 56 powertool)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Great suggestions here.

Re: sanitation. Pleeeez get the unscented version when you order that case. Otherwise every hand-washing station becomes an asthma-attack trigger for those of us with breathing impairments.

Some of the more noxious pathogens -- I'm looking at you, norovirus -- are not destroyed by alcohol gels. Stress hand washing in the bathrooms. I am all for snarky signs: "Con crud is the gift which makes your fellow members hate you. If you haven't washed your hands you can be a vector." I'm sure there are anime-relevant heroes and villains to reference.

Re: con suite signage. I appreciate a "pantry list" in program book or large print on walls OUTSIDE the consuite and on main floor if the consuite is elsewhere. That way I can see what's available without piloting my wheelchair through the hungry mobs (and without craning up to see on tables which are probably out of reach). Visibility for wheelchair users loses to "out of reach of toddlers." More of them.

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Date: 2013-03-12 12:45 pm (UTC)
killing_rose: Raven on an eagle (Default)
From: [personal profile] killing_rose
This. My boss has triggered massive asthma attacks twice by switching her sanitizer.

And as someone who will get sick from the smell of pizza, I beg of you not to buy pizza as a quick option

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Date: 2013-03-12 06:50 pm (UTC)
sasha_feather: Retro-style poster of skier on pluto.   (Default)
From: [personal profile] sasha_feather
I don't think you should do it all yourself! The con should pay to have the Con Suite staff take a ServSafe course, and/or pay you.

Also I urge you to recruit an Access Team. Doing all this yourself can lead to burn out. You have a large convention and other people may be ready and willing to share in those warm and fuzzy volunteer feelings!

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Date: 2013-03-13 04:25 am (UTC)
amadi: A bouquet of dark purple roses (Default)
From: [personal profile] amadi
Whenever I'm serving prepared foodstuffs in grazing situation, I try to take the ingredient list portion of the packaging, slap it on a copier, blow it up until it's ~24pt font size, and then just tape that copy (usually as a half-sheet of letter sized paper) on the table in front of the platter/box/whatever. If I can do the whole "nutrition facts" panel, for people who need to know the rest of the information they provide, I do that.

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Date: 2013-03-13 05:21 pm (UTC)
metanewsmods: Abed wearing goggles (Default)
From: [personal profile] metanewsmods
Hi, would it be okay to link this at [community profile] metanews?

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Date: 2013-03-14 03:37 am (UTC)
jesse_the_k: The smoking pipe from Magritte's "Treachery of Images" itself captioned in French script "this is not a pipe" captioned "not an icon" (Beating heart of love GIF)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Re: unscented soap. First two years we bought and maintained labelled, unscented soap in all public bathrooms. Year three the hotel asked if they could supply instead.

Re: you. GO TEAM! You're getting a lot of wonderful things done! On the off chance you need something more to do, feel free to share your experiences in the wiki (link under the comm name)

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Date: 2013-03-14 05:40 am (UTC)
jesse_the_k: Feet in piano keyboard socks and black patent leather flats (shoes are key elements)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Absolutely — and you've worked way past any question mark. It's vital that we share our actual experiences making fandom accessible to all of us. Notes here, notes in the wiki — it's all good.

I'm no SMOF, but I've already seen how quickly our great ideas disappear in the mists of history. Document!

Soap tip (or is that soap drip?): We use Dr Bronner's unscented. Hotel products are dispensed as-is; Dr B's is so thick that it gums up the pumps. Dr B can be diluted 1 soap:3 water and still work well, but 1:1 works better in the pump dispensers.

Cross Contamination PSA

Date: 2013-03-20 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selkiechick.livejournal.com
Cross Contamination PSA created for Arisia (Available for use.... )
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