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Only indirectly related to fandom (I know plenty of fen who've switched to ereaders for much of their reading), but strongly related to accessibility: Amazon, Kobo and Sony are requesting that the FCC exempt dedicated e-readers (PDF) from the requirement to be accessible.

"The public interest would be served by granting this petition because the theoretical ACS ability of e-readers is irrelevant to how the overwhelming majority of users actually use the devices," it says, as if any accessible features were granted because those were how the majority used them.

It goes on to say "E-readers simply are not designed, built, or marketed for ACS, and the public understands the distinction between e-readers and general-purpose tablets." I... have my doubts about that, especially since e-reader manufacturers work really hard to imply that there's no difference, just BW e-readers and color e-readers.

Most of the functions that would require ACS don't exist on many ereaders; I don't agree that means the rest of them shouldn't require it. I suspect this is a ploy to get Kindles into schools without having to be accessible to students with disabilities. Possibly, though, it's exactly what it says it is: an attempt to allow browsers and social media software on limited-use devices without holding them to the same standards as phones and tablets.

ETA1: changed link to the FCC page with embedded PDF.

ETA2: There's a request for comments that last through THIS MONTH. Comments Due: September 3, 2013

"Comments and oppositions are due within 30 days from the date of this Public Notice. Reply comments are due within 10 days after the time for filing comments and oppositions has expired."

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Date: 2013-08-07 12:23 am (UTC)
jesse_the_k: iPod nestles in hollowed-out print book (Alt format reader)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
That's totally horrifying.

Your "sneak it into the schools" is totally correct. (Think of the money school districts can save if they don't have to buy, store, repair textbooks!)

Advocates for people with print impairments made a loud noise on this matter when Princeton University proposed to equip their students with an Amazon Kindle DX. That was the first e-reader one could reasonable use to read a PDF. (Of course, reading a PDF with speech output requires doing OCR first, which is probably outside the reach of the cheap chips in the e-readers.)

One of the petitioners in that suit was the National Federation of the Blind, and that previous link takes you to their extensive Kindle coverage — including "how well the Kindle app on iOS, Mac OS, and Windows works."

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Date: 2013-08-07 12:44 am (UTC)
jesse_the_k: Baby wearing black glasses bigger than head (eyeglasses baby)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Wow! Thanks for teaching me something new. So an "accessible PDF" simply saves the text along with the image, where a speech software on the destination machine can talks its head off?

IANAL and I couldn't figure out what the e-reader manufacturers were doing. But I was using 64K Apple IIs to read text with voice 30 years ago, so when they refer to talking e-reader as "advanced computing technology" I just want to know which way to aim the rocket launcher.

Thanks for keeping up with Mobileread! Their forums are outstanding for the nitty-gritty details of any text reader anywhere, but I sorta drown there.

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Date: 2013-08-07 01:41 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: 12 Apostles rocks, text "Rock On" (12 Apostles)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
E-readers simply are not designed, built, or marketed for ACS

Subtext: and we don't want to, waaah!

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Date: 2013-08-07 02:52 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: 12 Apostles rocks, text "Rock On" (12 Apostles)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
Awesome! I'll check if they take comments from outside the US.

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Date: 2013-08-07 02:15 pm (UTC)
tiamatschild: Painting of a woman resting on a bridge railing - she has a laundry bag beside her (Default)
From: [personal profile] tiamatschild
...

....What EVEN.

(I'll write something up. I may not know a lot about the technology, but the history of accessibility standards is something I can do.)

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